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Old 12-13-2013 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
4 LAX7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
2 SLC7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled
2 SEA7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
9 DTW7ERf/o left, not backfilled
3 DTW73Nf/o left, not backfilled
0 DTW320f/o change, same number in and out.
0 MSPm88f/o change, 6 in and 6 out.
8 MSP7ERf/o left, not backfilled.
0 MSP320f/o change, 13 out and 13 in.



All other LAX/SLC/SEA positions just traded 1 for 1, no increase or decrease.

Net loss of 8 west coast FO positions, widebody positions. That's 8 guys that didn't flow up from 73N, eight more that didn't flow there from 320/m88. So, that's 16 flowups that didn't happen out west. Again, lots of movement for for senior 7erf/o, nothing below (at least out west, I haven't had time to look at the totals for other bases).

For 73N, 320, M88, and 717 f/os, that's 23 7ERf/o positions that didn't get backfilled and 3 73n. Assuming those positions would have rippled from ER to 717, that's 92 f/o positions that should have existed and allowed junior fo's to finally move up... but which didn't happen because DESPITE THE CHEERLEADING, we are still shrinking faster than we are retiring or adding positions for new jets.

edit... DOH it gets worse!
19 NYC7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled.
7 NYC73Nf/o positions reduced (9 guys left, 2 backfilled)
2 NYCM88f/o positions reduced (4 guys left, 2 backfilled)
13 NYC320f/o positions reduced (16 guys left, 3 backfilled)
28 ATL7ERf/o left positions, not backfilled
0 change ATL73Nf/o
+15 positions ATL320f/o, (17 gained, 2 guys left)
1 ATLM88f/o position reduced, (9 gained, 10 guys left)
4 ATL717f/o positions reduced

That's 70 jobs, just in ERf/o positions lost, that DIDN'T get replaced, DIDN'T cause anyone below them to move up.
that's 10 73NB positions that disappeared, and didn't cause anyone below them to move up
etc
I WANT to be excited for hiring and capt spots on AEs.... but the proof is in the pudding, and once again there was no improvement

Here's the positive side of things, for those of you sick of hearing everyone hired after 1999 complain of stagnation... at least I didn't move BACKWARDS it appears! Yay, go me!
The narrow body positions you mention will be filled by new hires and recalls. When you hire you have to have a place to put them.
The ER positions will see some backfill on the next bid which surprises me but rumor has it that there is another reduction in 757 retirement numbers.

""The December AE award was posted on December 13, 2013. As we stated in the AE memo, our immediate focus is the M88 and 320. When we award an AE we run several simulations with different levels of backfilling to measure the training produced. We run our initial simulation as “wide open” and backfill all positions. For the initial December AE run, we had no problems filling the M88 and 320 Captain postings, but we had a large number of M88 and 320 First Officer openings.
We need to maintain as many current M88 and 320 First Officers as possible for January through March as we bring on new hires and flow-ups. As a result, we did not backfill the 7ER First Officer on the December AE. We will need to increase our 7ER First Officer levels by June in order to fly the summer schedule and will post another AE in approximately 45-60 days with 7ER First Officer openings. At this time, we do not know the categories where will see openings or to what level. Network is making their final adjustments to the summer schedule now and once they are complete we will make our staffing decisions based on the summer flying""