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Old 12-18-2013 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Beer Man
I'm thinking that by virtue of following the PWA and the new Reserve rest rules I will be able to take the entire month off. This is my theory, please correct me if I'm wrong... If I wait to acknowledge a trip until 3 hours prior to the report time therefore remaining within the rules of the PWA, I will never be able to legally report for a trip until 7 hours after the report time by virtue of needing my 10 hours of FAR required rest. I assume by that time the company will have no choice but to move on to a short call or short notice white/green slip. This appears to be a huge hole between the PWA obligations and the new rest rule requirements. What am I missing?




You are missing all the trips that are assigned the morning prior to the report day. In LAX 90% of the trips assigned to reserve have around 24 hour notice. All of these can be flown within both the contract and 117. If anything all the company has to do is push out the reserve assignments.

Yes, there will still be an issue with pop-up trips that can not be handled by Short-call and these will be green-slips.

Until the company and union work this out I foresee the following.

1. Most trips awarded early AM the day prior.
2. Anything else that can be given to S/C will go to S/C Pilots - expect to see more S/Cs on your schedule.

Both of the above are legal per 117 and the contract.

3. Next you will see Greesnslips.
4. Finally you will see the "gray-area" assignments, legal per 117 but not exactly within our contract.

Additionally you might see some 19+ hour inverse assignments which would also be within both 117 and the contract.

My only question is the sequence that scheduling uses to award open time - Do they have the flexibility to just skip the that parts are not legal per 117? Some steps in the sequence that are contractually required are no longer legal - I would assume this give the company a free hand in moving on to the next step.

Anyway - good luck getting the whole month off. As always I think the 117 affects will be category dependent. In LAX our trips did not change that much. We will see about the rest.

I am assuming a 9 hour acknowledgement ( basically status quo) - not the three hour contractual requirement, which is now an illegal contract per 117.
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Last edited by Scoop; 12-18-2013 at 08:05 AM.