Originally Posted by
shoelu
Boogie, I'm sorry things are sliding on your side and as a realist I'm afraid it will probably get worse before it get's better. SWA will continue to operate its schedule as cheaply as possible, exploiting all savings available for as long as possible. In general that means exploiting the cheaper option as long as possible. The only good thing I can say is in 12 months we will all be on the same contract, no matter what.
Do we get shutdown or furloughed?
As of 1/1/15 EVERYONE is covered by the SWA CBA whether transitioned or not, that is indisputable. It seems counter intuitive to think SWA is currently hiring pilots only to furlough them far less than 12 months after they trained them. In the end, current new hires may have a reason to be nervous, but I see little reason for those that were on either seniority list prior to constructive notice to be genuinely worried.
A guy hired four months after me is 1300 numbers ahead of me on the seniority list. Not very equitable in my mind.
There is really nothing I can say at this point that will alter the SLI and since we all voted astoundingly in the affirmative we will all just need to learn to live with it.
Again I am leaving that behind but your post on redeyes got me going since I have to fly them a bunch.
Hopefully when all are transitioned you will be able to bid away from them or at least be adequately compensated for the inconvenience.
First who knows if I will able to bid a hard line rather than sit on reserve let alone bid away from redeyes. Yes hopefully I will.
As far as I know the SLI says all furloughs will come from the AT side first. Yes why furlough when you are hiring. As you stated "
SWA will continue to operate its schedule as cheaply as possible, exploiting all savings available for as long as possible" What is to say they don't furlough those left at AT while we wait for training slots? That would solve the problem of AT pilots as captains (near term). Will the CBA cover us while on the AT side while still under the AT contract or will the SLI take precedent? Who is to say SWA doesn't shut us down furlough us despite any protections and stonewall as long as possible while lawyers hash it out. I can't imagine SWAPA too worried about anything on our side of the partition. Again "
SWA will continue to operate its schedule as cheaply as possible, exploiting all savings available for as long as possible".
Just saying we have concerns and no assurances based on implied promises that fell far short.
Example 717's 'till 2017, TPA 717 Base, 737s to cross over first, Everyone at SWA by mid 2014.
Making the best of it though, I got the holidays off for the first time! First choice of vacation next year.
I do appreciate the thoughtful reply
Thanks
Boogie
P.S I do chuckle at the Flatish won't Fly" bag tags, keeping in mind I do the same job for 40% less.
SWA may have great scope but if you think about it SWA undercuts SWAPA by paying AT pilot less for routes you could be cashing in on.
"SWA will continue to operate its schedule as cheaply as possible, exploiting all savings available for as long as possible." I do realize it all about business, and I view this whole merger with that in mind and try not to take it too personal.