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Old 12-19-2013 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dash8widget
Take a look at my example again - there are 30 consecutive hours off at the beginning. After the pilot had worked his 7 days, he had 137 hours without a 30 hour rest. But, that's ok because he DID have 30+ consecutive hours of rest in the previous 168. 168 - 137 = 31. In a 168 hour look back upon his release on day 7, he had 31 consecutive hours of rest - at the beginning. In other words, you can go 138 hours before needing a 30 break in duty.

I don't understand. The 30 consecutive hours is in a rolling 168 hour window. 30 hours>24 hours so how can you possibly work 7 days in a row? I agree that counting a 30 hour layover as rest totally blows, but that is not really a change. You may indeed be working 7 consecutive calendar days but that is no different than before in fact the rest has been bumped from 24 to 30.

If the 30 consecutive hours are in the beginning then you have the first day of the week off.

One thing all this confusion points out is that we, both Pilots and schedulers, have not been adequately prepared for this transition.

The company had "hoped" for a different interpretation of 117. Well first off that is just another example of "hope" not being a sound strategy......... for anything. And second, WTFFF was plan b?

The company and DALPA has stuff posted - well thats just great. How about some actual training were we get paid for doing work - you know the old fashioned way. We do work - we get paid.

Scoop