What silence, the MEC chairman sent a blast on Friday, he has also sent email with the commuter issues. NY and ORD sent blast and you had the holiday mid week. The MEC is set to met on 2 Jan in DFW to decide how to proceed with the proposal, this is after the pilots give the LEC their thoughts by email. I believe they have kept us up to date with what is happening. The company wants answers prior to the 14th the same date that the EXJ vote happens to close. We are taking our time and there is no need to rush, we have a contract that still has 7 years before it's amendable.