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Old 12-28-2013 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by flyingreasemnky
United's new scope is once the maximum number of (71-76) seat regional aircraft is reached (223) the maximum limit of 50 seat regional jets will have been capped down to 125. This is what would provide the Hard-Cap of 450 Regional Aircraft. Before they hit the limit of 223 70-seaters:

For the first 10 aircraft above 153 (71-76) seat aircraft,United must reduce by 27 (50) seat aircraft.
For the next 10 (71-76) aircraft above 163, United must reduce by an additional 28 (50) seat aircraft.
For the next 10 (71-76) aircraft above 173, United must reduce by an additional 29 (50) seat aircraft.
For the next 10 (71-76) aircraft above 183, United must reduce by an additional 30 (50) seat aircraft.
For the next 20 (71-76) aircraft above 193, United must reduce by an additional 62 (50) seat aircraft.
For the next 10 (71-76) aircraft above 213, United must reduce by an additional 46 (50) seat aircraft.

I'm not arguing about your furlough protection, I'm talking solely about whether the flying could be replaced. My initial post was to regards to somone's post regarding 1400 flights a day not being able to be replaced. Besides when has any airline management actually followed a legally binding contract.
Great, you went and got the numbers. But now lets look at how they would get to park the 50 seaters. For United to park the 50 seaters they would have to put into service another 80 or so 76 seaters and this includes the Q400 tanning in the sun. And then they would have to add more 76 seaters, your math is that SKW inc is going to have surplus of pilots but one has to realize that hiring at the majors will triple in 2014 and the amount of new hires for the regionals will be likely be cut by 25% or so. Yes EXJ could get a whole lot of AA flying if they parked most of United and Delta's 50 seaters but we know attrition will likely keep up with airframes leaving our the door at EXJ. PDT and AWAC are the places that could park their airframes or substitute the current flying AE does with AWAC 50 seaters. But we need to account that someone also would have to staff the 40 76 seaters Delta has left that will go into service later next year and also whatever 76 seaters United decides to add into the mix.

Mesa and RAH are hiring, currently they are hiring but the numbers coming in the door are similar to those going out the door. PSA is in the same situation, will they get to grow their SN list, i bet they will but will it be enough to grow the airline 100% like they are planing onto, doubling the airline's size? It means these two airlines are planing to hire 1000 pilots next year. RAH said already they will sacrifice their 50 seaters to staff the Ejets. They are talking about getting another 30 or so next year. So if they shut down CHQ they still have to hire to maintain numbers for attrition. Just these 3 airlines are looking at hiring well over 1000 new hires. Serious question, do you think there will be enough pilots out there to staff all this growth flying?

American 300+
Delta 500+
United 500+
JetBlue 250+
Spirit ???
Virgin, they got new routes so I bet they will hire as well

Cargo, 135, fractional????

Regional retirements????

The gest of the PSA contract and the Eagle offer is to lock in the pilots at rates for the next 10 years under the AAG umbrella and entice new hires with flow while the other airlines jockey for new hires with $$$. Mesa and RAH are looking at contracts improvements? Why is that?
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