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Old 04-24-2007 | 07:13 PM
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Yeah the freight company is a future flying job possibility. The problem is they fly primarily piston ME which does me little good for my primary objective.

I so much appreciate the information! The more info and advice I can get the better at this point. It's just that I have invested soooo much time with UPS at this point that I would be a fool to not finish my career with them flying. I would love to get there by 40 is my objective. That gives be a little under 6 years!

So you think I would be wise to skip the Ameriflight route and start off with low time regional requirements? I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to log PIC time for 3 years if I went the regional route as opposed to the cargo route.

I am not saying don't go to Ameriflight because frankly I know absolutely nothing about them, I’m sure it’s a great outfit. What I am saying is go to a place where every hour in the airplane counts toward your ultimate goal. If the company you’re thinking about is flying multi-pistons, well you’ll be wasting your time doing that as last time I checked UPS requires TURBINE pic time.

Now, flying the multi-pistons might help you go somewhere else where you can attain the turbine requirement UPS has, but why would you want to do that if you can go straight to a turboprop/turbojet operation?

Also, another thing that’s very important to consider is how much flying you’ll be doing. At many of the regionals, people time-out at the end of the year, in other words they hit 1000 hours. That should be your goal as you want to get on with UPS yesterday and not tomorrow. If you find an operation where they fly 500-600 hours a year, I'd stay away from it because it'll unnecessary prolong your stay there.

About 12 months ago I told a very good friend of mine to quit Chautauqua and apply with a heavy operator if he was serious about UPS or Fedex. He’d been applying and updating his resume with UPS for many years seemingly to no avail. He was a captain there with 7+ years worth of seniority, had great schedules and was making descent money so the decision was not easy. Well, finally in December of last year, he started training with an MD11 operator, (don’t wanna say which one as he’s still there ) Anyways, he was called for an interview shortly after he finished his ioe AND was hired! Last I heard he’s supposed to start in May. Basically he made sure his resume showed what UPS wanted to see and it worked out for him; big gamble of course but unless you play, you'll never win!

I was concerned that I wouldn't be able to log PIC time for 3 years if I went the regional route as opposed to the cargo route.

Not sure why you say that? Some regionals, Pinnacle for example, want you to have 3,500 total time (recently lowered to 2,500 TT I think?) before you can upgrade. Is that what you’re talking about? Not being able to upgrade because you do not have enough TT?

If so, remember I said go to ANY regional that hires you and then fly 100 hours a month until you meet the minimums for the regional that has the lowest upgrade time and NO total time limits – then jump the ship – no time for you to be loyal.

Basically, until you have 1000.0 hours of turbine PIC time AND transoceanic crossing experience you cannot even apply. Therefore, look at Ameriflight and look at other regionals, etc and pick the one (or the ones) which will bring you that experience the fastest! Remember, you’re little older than most when they start the time building process but that’s OK, you just need to expedite things a little if you can…
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