Originally Posted by
Electra
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Anyway, you don't understand the GDO language. The TA language is actually better but I'm sure you are an expert in pilot contracts and you really do know how immovable days work in our current contract which is what's in the TA. Also, if you actually read the TA (not contract agreement), you would've realized there is a provision to prevent the very thing you are talking about as far as transfers. But like I said, I think that is very unlikely anyway, except for maybe the 59 700/900s in a worst case scenerio. Then 590 pilots would go to Skywest with seniority and longevity. Also, if there are any furloughs and under a bilateral flow agreement, those pilots go over as well. Again, only talking about a worst case scenerio. Now, if aircraft transfer from Skywest to XJT, pilots only go if it's more than 5 aircraft in a rolling 12 months and it starts at aircraft number 5, not the first aircraft transferred. Like I said, people are negotiating on your behalf and against your interest. And you guys don't even know it. What are you going to do about it?
Wow, internet tough guy, spouting the same junk that you have for years here and on FI. What am I going to do about it? I'm going to go to work, buy coffee and beers for my crews, take care of my passengers, be polite to my gate agents and rampers, and be friendly to XJT crews and every other crew member I encounter. Like I always have. And I'll remember that SkyWest Inc.'s laywers are smarter than your ALPA committee and our management is leery of any backdoor deals (which is why any MESA deal involving DOH seniority mergers was DOA years ago), so "negotiate" away, I'm not staying up late at night worried about getting bumped by an XJT captain, because there is ALWAYS a loophole. Stop worrying about us, we can take care of ourselves, but you guys should be worried; SkyWest Inc. is getting heartburn every time they have a QE call because they have to defend the XJT operation to angry investors.
It was an honest question and not meant to be anything other than thought provoking. But thanks for validating my feelings about you guys being a lost cause. And trust me, this place, XJT, is imploding. I'm actually surprised that Inc hasn't fired management over here and just shut this place down. That's what I'm planning on anyway as crappy as this operation has been managed in the last 3 years.
Maybe I made it sound like a bigger deal than it is. But transfer of aircraft is not going to happen with any 50 seaters. The only possibility is the 59 700/900s when XJT implodes. Then those 590 guys will go over with the aircraft and the furloughs go over with a bilateral flow. In actuality, it wouldn't be a huge effect on the Skywest pilots as the 590 would be coming over with their aircraft anyway and the furlough guys will go somewhere near the bottom anyway.
My main point in all this was to point out that your management is making deals on your behalf and our guys are negotiating against your interest and you have had no place on the bargaining table to at last nod in agreement. And yet that is not enough to get you guys to engage? Why wouldn't you want a say in your livelihood? I'm truly confused at your apathy. I don't see this as you guys taking care of yourselves at all. You guys are being had and you either don't know it or don't want to acknowledge it. And here is the problem with it. When you guys hitch your wagon onto our health benefit and matching fund negotiations, it makes management not want to agree to raise those benefits because it's not just going to cost them 4500 pilots. How is that ok with you guys? That's just one example of the coat tail. Do you not see the detriment you are having on the regional pilot industry?