But Eastern--who gets to set this bar? There have been countless thought experiments set up by philosophers from all times which can show that nearly anything can rationalized or justified depending on the circumstances--the idea of "Absolute Morality" has been brought up and debated since Greek times--with no clear winner of the debate. Our culture has set social norms for conduct and morality the we GENERALLY all agree on..Murder, Pedophilia, and Rape are all heinous and wrong--And for the majority of these crimes the punishment we have created to deal with it are the harshest in our society. My problem is that once you get past the BIG OBVIOUS parts of our social norms and notions of wrongdoing--you fall into a murky grey soup where the social norms break down into individual beliefs that may or may not be immoral to people. The only solution I see to managing this is to make nearly everything legal (unless it is going to explicitly harm someone else)--then choose to participate, or not, based on your own individual code--and have the freedom of speech and expression to stand in the door and scream at the top of your lungs how wrong you think this behavior is..."I may disagree with what you say, but I will fight to the death for your right to say it" Just a similar notion with behavior..