Originally Posted by
LivingTheDream
I don't see where it says "behind the door". Sleep is sleep. Not getting ready for bed... not getting ready to go to work.
I don't accept less than 9hrs "behind the door". That gives me and my crew a half hour to get ready for bed and a half hour to get ready for work. That gives one a minimum of 8hrs sleep.
I did that before 117 and I'll do that now.
If my reps are not on board with this, they are not "scheduling with safety... period. I'll be contacting my reps today.
C'mon LTD, let's not apply logic or common sense to what it takes to actually be rested and alert prior to flying the plane. Were they really trying to build rules that allow pilots to get adequate rest or was this more of a PR stunt aimed at the public and victims families so they could feel good that "New rules are in place and safety has triumphed". Hey, pilots are required to sign documents that say they are well rested prior to flying (with no fear of getting called in to do a carpet dance for not doing so)....it's a fail safe system of safety right?
Seriously, I am glad there are people like you making an effort to get this right and ensure it functions for it's intended purpose. That is, to help pilots get the rest they need and be overall safer behind the controls as a result. Whatever is practiced at the beginning of FAR 117 implementation will be become the new "precedent" and legal benchmark for airline scheduling now and into the future. Beyond the safety aspect, it would be nice to know pilots are able to live happy, healthy lives, getting enough daily restorative sleep so they don't end a trip feeling like a zombie.