Originally Posted by
Stitches
Or perhaps the computer program that scores the apps just happens to pick guys who have a diverse background and have risen to leadership positions over their peers for interviews. This includes 30 somethings and plenty of civilian guys. Maybe then the interviewers filter out guys with chips on their shoulders and entitlement attitudes. After that perhaps the chief pilots score the candidates based on their interview and recommendations from the pilot group.
Of course, thats just a theory of mine. You're probably right that they just call a bunch of 40 year old "yes sir" military types who will follow any order and brainwash them so they will vote yes on a contract as you suggested.
The average age of new hires is around 40, and most of them do have military background. However, plenty of guys are in their early 30's to late 50's. Several have slugged it out at regionals over the past few years and some are civilian only but just about everyone has instructor/evaluator/check airman/other leadership experience. And what company wouldn't want a guy/gal like that? The guys getting hired now are older beacause they are the most qualified and they are available because there has not been a whole lot of hiring over the past 6 years or so.
ATR-unless you are in your early 20's I'd say you have as good a chance as anyone. However, something tells me that your hostility towards certain groups of people who have found success is a big turnoff and that attitude usually prevents people like you from getting in leadership and authority positions. Even if you're the chief pilot of your company and have a billion pic hours, all it takes is one 40 year old mil guy who knows you and takes offense to your comments to walk into the people department and give them a heads up and you're done for good at Southwest.
first off I have no chip on my shoulder, I work hard and have all the leadership credentials you speak of. I also have no ill will to SWA whats so ever. I love SWA and would want to be apart of it someday. I have been turned down twice now and can only hold myself accountable. But it does make a guy wonder why 80% that are successful are military late to early 40's with 0 121 time.
thats all I'm saying is if your not going to give a guy a fair shot. Then why have him waste the time to come down and interview. My interview group there was a very low percentage of us hired and I am including both groups for the big day. Those that did get the nod were all military. My first time interviewing, same thing all military.
I hold no grudges to the military guys, I wish I could do it over again and join up. I thought I knew better.
Again best of luck to those interviewing. Stuff happens for a reason and maybe I am destined to be where I am currently at....its not all that bad.