Originally Posted by Sink r8

So... using a hypothetical flight, blocked at 7:10, including :30 taxi-out, and :10 taxi-in.

FDP = 1:30 brief + 7:10 block = 8:40
Flight time = 6:30
Time available for breaks = 5:00
Time required for PF = 2:00
Time available to be split between PM and relief = 3:00
Time required for PM = 1:30
Time remaining for RP = 1:30

FDP midpoint is 4:20 before block-in, 4:10 before landing. The FP break must start NET 4:10 before landing. Take out 1 hour where everyone must be back in their seat. That leaves 3:10 between the earliest start of the PF break, and the end of the 3rd break.

If you want the PF to have 2nd break, the maximum available for 3rd break is 1:10. PM needs 1:30 minimum, so PM cannot have third break (according to CFR 117).

Unless you want to claim that having the PM take 1st break is an intelligent chance, I don't see how you could comply with the new regs without shifting PF to 3rd break.

Am I missing something?