Originally Posted by
Scoop
Look on your rotation. It has a pay report time and a actual report time. If you show up in the lobby for P/U at a specified time I think that would be the actual report time.
If you are delayed three hours it would seem to me that your duty period clock would be ticking the whole time.
Scoop
If 117 is the same as 121, FAA doesn't consider you "on duty" until you are at the airport
and at the designated time. If Delta catches you before you leave the hotel, you're not on duty. If you show up at the airport early of your own doing (commuter, didn't stay at the hotel, etc.) same thing.
You always have the fatigue card to play, but be careful declaring yourself on duty for FAR purposes. It may not be the same as PWA. Use the contract definitions for contractual rules, FAA definitions for 117 limits.