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Old 01-31-2014 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Check Essential
You left out one key fact - did you acknowledge the short call when you checked your schedule on your last no-fly day?


It really doesn't matter though as far as your question is concerned. Your situation is the heart of the current dispute over the contract language and the new FAR 117.


You better check your schedule and your time card to see if they hit you with a personal drop and docked your paycheck.

According to the document we thought was the contract you did not have to answer the 12:15 am phone call. You could have slept peacefully and checked your messages when you got up, just as you did, and then acknowledged the trip at that time or any time up to 3 hours from report.

According to Steve Dickson you did have to answer. Or at least check your messages at 2 AM. You were on long call from midnight to 2AM. Under his version of the contract you have to acknowledge at least 10 hours prior to sign-in.
If you didn't have short call the next day or if you haven't acknowledged it and you are just on long call, then Dickson's copy of the contract says you have to either leave your phone on and answer it or you have to check your messages every two hours all night long.

ALPA says they are defending the contract as written but they haven't provided any updates on whether they have been able to get anybody's pay restored. Management seems to be winning.
The OP's case doesn't seem to be about any of that though. If he acknowledged the noon SC, then he would have been completely legal to do the 14:30ish trip. They may have called after midnight but they didn't have to, and he didn't have to answer. As far as he knew, he had SC at noon so that's when the phone comes on. Even if they tried to stick it to him with the SD fantasy 2 hour leash memo, that had nothing to do with anything, as he still had over 2 hours had they just waited til start of SC to call again.

The only things I can think of is that they either just reflexively "pumped and dumped" the trip because they were in "fantasy memo mode" or they were trying to get an earlier acknowledgement because they wanted or needed a long duty day and wanted report to start at 14:30 instead of off a noon RAP.