Originally Posted by
Nantonaku
Here we go again, we have to rehash this accident over and over because some people just don't get it. How many hours did Renslow and Shaw have WHEN HIRED to fly for the airlines? Go find the NTSB report and you will find the answer. Hint: they had way less than ATP requirements. Another piece of the puzzle for those that still don't get it: both of these airmen would have had to instruct hundreds of more hours teaching basic airmanship which include STALLS. I capitalize the word stalls to help those that are still not connecting all the clues. The bottom line, this accident would not of happened if both of these pilots would have entered airline flying with ATP minimums.
I disagree thoroughly.
So your saying this captain with over 6k hrs, having practiced stalls twice a year in sim for years, having practiced stalls countless times in his own training a decade before...needed 500 hours more as an instructor/banner tower/freight hauler/time builder to realize a stall shaker = pitch down. Wow what a solution, thats all it takes to assure a pilot recovers from the most basic procedure in flying, 1500hr, not 1400 nor 1000. Think of all of the airline pilots currently flying today that were hired under 1500 hrs. Im sure there are thousands out there.. scary huh? Why this 30 year captain could even be one of them!
Its the quality of experience you have, not just quantity. Thats the whole point I was making. ATP guarantees nothing without changes to what has to be learned. Flying in the military and getting out 11 years later still doesn't get many to ATP mins.