Originally Posted by
millscd63
Am I missing something here? The 12 year 747 pay rates for CA and FO at American are $241 and $164 vs. $203 and $142 at Atlas. One of the big problems here is that a lot of guys don't realize how far behind we have fallen since all the majors have negotiated new contracts.
Good point. But collective bargaining/pattern bargaining ISN'T an instant process unfortunately. DAL has had they're PWA for what, almost 4 years now? UAL didn't catch up late in 2012. And the Atlas rates NOW aren't that far off from what UAL was on their concessionary ones.
FedEx and UPS didn't get their CBA's around 2005. UAL and DAL's big contracts were 2000 and 2001.
About the only good system out there was the USAir one where they had a "parity plus" style of compensation raise. Whenever anybody else got a raise, they're pay was raised to be similar. Although I can't remember all the details. If it was a peer average plus, or an adjusted amount plus, what have you. However, the pitfall for somebody like Atlas would be what's considered a "peer".