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Old 02-28-2014 | 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Firsttimeflyer
No transfer of aircraft will be necessary and even if it was, only the ASA guys are protected after the 5th aircraft.
Not that I think it will happen but if they do transfer aircraft, ALL XJT pilots (LASA & LXJT) are eligible to transfer (5 CAs & 5 FOs per aircraft) with the FIRST aircraft, taking with them longevity AND seniority.

You can thank your management for negotiating that on your behalf.

Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron
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Originally Posted by spuzzyair


Exactly, some simply don't get it. The planes aren't showing up all at once tomorrow. As 200's increasingly get parked that frees up crews in addition to new hires to staff the 175's down the road....its a fleet renewal for SkyWest. Y'all can sit back and deny all you want and tell us how ExpressJet needs to hold the line, management has no choice. They have plenty of choices, and one is not to reward an airline that loses money and drags down profits. Especially when United and Delta are both begging for the 50 seat flying to go away... that makes it that much easier.




That staffing model sounds all well and good but it doesn't look as if you are factoring in retirements and attrition. Sure, parking 200's and some new hires will help fill 175 seats but when Delta, United, and American start cranking up the hiring, then mainline (i mean skyw) could very well have trouble filling those seats. Add on to that the skyw guys that might leave for the likes of Alaska, Spirit, JB, Allegiant, Hawaiian, etc... and inc could be in a real bind.

The plan may be to wind it down. i dont know. But I wont be voting for concessions as long as inc has all the waste of running OO and EV separately. Combine the entire operation and show me then that every thing has been done to make one profitable airline. If the airline is not profitable at that point, then ill talk concessions.
Exactly! Why should we approve a concessionary contract in order to perpetuate our ceo's immoral whipsaw business model and run pay two separate management teams and two sets of systems and departments so that he can put more money in his pocket while at the same time giving himself thousands of shares of stock?

Eff that! Wind it down!

Originally Posted by spuzzyair
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Originally Posted by TheBlueBaron


That staffing model sounds all well and good but it doesn't look as if you are factoring in retirements and attrition. Sure, parking 200's and some new hires will help fill 175 seats but when Delta, United, and American start cranking up the hiring, then mainline (i mean skyw) could very well have trouble filling those seats. Add on to that the skyw guys that might leave for the likes of Alaska, Spirit, JB, Allegiant, Hawaiian, etc... and inc could be in a real bind.

The plan may be to wind it down. i dont know. But I wont be voting for concessions as long as inc has all the waste of running OO and EV separately. Combine the entire operation and show me then that every thing has been done to make one profitable airline. If the airline is not profitable at that point, then ill talk concessions.




Not arguing that... combine or wind down I think are the two options... I don't think its viable for them to continue to run two separate operations. It could be hugely beneficial to combine, but as long as unions are in the picture its never going to happen.
What if Skywest certified SAPA as their NMB recognized bargaining agent?