Originally Posted by
Bucking Bar
Expressjet pilots just voted down their TA. Eagle decided not even to release it to their pilots. ALPA's own data reflected a near hiring shortage in 2007 before the financial crisis pushed that off until now.
Those data points converge, just as Captain Lee Moak says, at a shortage in pay and working conditions.
You and I think strategically. Was it an accidental whim that resulted in our jobs here at Delta, or did we train, prepare, invest our time and money into what we figured would be a good career? At that time the model was pretty obvious. At the beginning of this Century it became apparent that model was pretty obviously broken. I was part of maybe 5% who made it out of the interview pool ... those are pretty slim odds for a student picking a career with a $100,000 buy in.
Management is already investigating a sort of ab-inito, multi crew license proposal. Management will solve the math problem. They will solve it with us, or without us. It has always been your preference to be engaged.
Sharpen your pencil Sir. I'll be glad to assist. Politically, this is all win for ALPA and ALPA's leadership. I do not know if Captain Moak needs the express pilots to win, but this would gain their support.
Bar, this is what we were trying to do by supporting the Comair pilots during their strike!!...closing the gap between mainline and DCI..then JC and Ford formed the RJDC to sue for DOH throughout the whole mainline list, held the DL furloughees hostage after 9/11, and rebuked any offer from DALPA to help furloughed ALPA pilots in return for FUTURE hiring advantages with mainline for ALPA pilots, basically quashing any sense of UNITY between DCI and mainline.
What's to prevent the same thing from happening when senior RJ captains at DCI realize they can just sue to place themselves ahead of you after we spend a huge amount of negotiating capital with management to bring all of DCI under the mainline umbrella? Unity goes both ways..
I'd like to believe that the market forces and pilot shortage will facilitate our vision, but I'm afraid of a few disgruntled pilots with lawyers that will take us back to the Comair fiasco.
(By the way..responded to your previous post on the previous page, but can't seem to type fast enough to keep up with you guys!)