Originally Posted by
HermannGraf
Thank you for saving me time explaining.
You get it and most do but we have the ones at the top of the scales or getting there that do not and that because they are selfish and greedy. They never had to survive on FO Regional pay for 10 years. They are the ones not willing to give up anything to help anyone else and they demand to get equal raise if the ones at the bottom get any. They are making six figures plus at the Regional level and claim they are lowly paid (every pilot at the Regionals are badly paid they claim) at the same time they do not give a **** about the guys making 25K at the bottom. Reality of things is that the Regional business model can't afford to pay all guys six figures. If it would then there would be no purpose for the majors to have Regional doing their flying. The Regionals gets the flying because they can operate cheaper and that because they pay less. We all get that and understand that there is not much more room, there is some but not much but there is a lot to do about the pay scales and how unfair the division of the available cash for the crew has been done. There is no other industry with the extreme of two people working together doing the same job while one getting paid 4 to 5 times what the other one is making. People should not make the same, not even for the same job, that is not my point, seniority should pay more and more responsibility should pay more but never 4 to 5 times what the guys doing the same job at the bottom is making and specifically not at the Regional level where the salaries at the bottom are ridiculously low. The guys that believes getting 4 or 5 times what the bottom guy is getting is right while the bottom guy is on food stamps are the guys that also believes it is right for a CEO to make in one year 80 times what the lowest paid pilot is making and have the arrogance to tell the guy at the bottom that he is the problem. He will even tell him, if you do not like the pay don't take the job.
Well guess what, there are not many taking the job anymore and if we do not find solutions the highest paid one will also lose his job (with all that follows) because without new pilots attrition will kill every Regional out there.
The majors are rolling in
BILLIONS $$$ IN PROFITS. There is plenty of money available if they want to use it. If not, fine. Then there will be no new pilots. Done. If they really want pilots to staff the regionals, they will need to pay a lot more in the future because the majors (by the very creation and expansion of the regionals) killed the dream of actually getting a job at the majors someday...
THEY DID THIS. THIS IS THEIR MESS. Reallocation of payroll is no solution, you're speaking as if that is a fixed number. Tell the majors to either bring a lot more money in to get pilots on property, or give them something other than lip-service and false dreams and promises of a mainline job... someday... when they get around to being able to give you one, after all their buddies and CP friends and kids and interns have been accommodated.
Kill the dream and guess what? Well, we're seeing what! No more dumb, hopeful, someday-I'm-gonna-fly-a-widebody-to-Europe kids showing up to learn to fly anymore. Well, they killed the dream, it's DEAD, and this is what it looks like. No new pilots is what it looks like. They made the regionals a stagnant, hard to escape career mud-pit. They can live with the consequences.
I hope they don't touch regional FO pay by a penny. I hope every regional is dead or part of mainline just for pilot supply in 10 years or less. That's the new dream.
Graf, you have to be management. Only management would think to solve the problem your way.