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Old 03-05-2014 | 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainNameless
The majors are rolling in BILLIONS $$$ IN PROFITS. There is plenty of money available if they want to use it. If not, fine. Then there will be no new pilots. Done. If they really want pilots to staff the regionals, they will need to pay a lot more in the future because the majors (by the very creation and expansion of the regionals) killed the dream of actually getting a job at the majors someday... THEY DID THIS. THIS IS THEIR MESS. Reallocation of payroll is no solution, you're speaking as if that is a fixed number. Tell the majors to either bring a lot more money in to get pilots on property, or give them something other than lip-service and false dreams and promises of a mainline job... someday... when they get around to being able to give you one, after all their buddies and CP friends and kids and interns have been accommodated.

Kill the dream and guess what? Well, we're seeing what! No more dumb, hopeful, someday-I'm-gonna-fly-a-widebody-to-Europe kids showing up to learn to fly anymore. Well, they killed the dream, it's DEAD, and this is what it looks like. No new pilots is what it looks like. They made the regionals a stagnant, hard to escape career mud-pit. They can live with the consequences.

I hope they don't touch regional FO pay by a penny. I hope every regional is dead or part of mainline just for pilot supply in 10 years or less. That's the new dream.

Graf, you have to be management. Only management would think to solve the problem your way.
CaptainNameless, NO, I can assure you I am not management. Other than that I agree with everything in your post and I want the same and hope the same. In utopia or optimal world we'll get what you say. What you are suggesting is the best but right now the most critical is to continue the fight Envoy and XJT started and most important get the guys at the lower half of the pay scales up to an acceptable minimum level for ATP 121 pilots. If we can get it without giving up a penny for anyone or maybe even getting raises along the board I am all for it but right now we have to care for the guys on food stamps salaries first. The rest will follow
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