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Old 03-05-2014 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
So since I know you are a free market, capitalism believer (which I am too), the only thing I can figure out about you is that you are far enough along in your career that you don't want to rock the boat at this point. Basically, you've disengaged from the free market and capitalism when it comes to our profession. You're willing to give up and just let the chips fall where they may so you don't have to take any risk. I just don't understand how you reconcile this with your fundamental beliefs. Thurston Howell III would be disappointed in you...
Nope. I want more pay. I am willing to take risk, but only if that risk makes sense. Just saying no, "because we already gave and now it's time for payback", is not necessarily a viable strategy IMHO. It could be, but I could also not be. An interesting part of your argument is the part about being a part of free market capitalism. That we are. But YOU well know also that in order for there to be a market, someone has to buy and someone has to sell. Works with stocks (DAL pushing $35/share.... YEAH BABY, YEAH!) and it works with contract negotiations, hence my statement that everything is negotiable. However, there is no place in the free market for hostage taking. (And what is really interesting is that it is we that would be taking ourselves as hostage) If you can give me a good reason to say no, I will be on board. But I have to see an end strategy. Just saying no until the company capitulates is stupid, because it completely ignores TVM, and even you believe in that or else you wouldn't be working options on the first of the month. If that makes me risk averse, then so be it. And you gotta get rid of TC and the doughnuts. Sorry. That divisiveness has to go because it will never unite the bigger group. YMMV

Oh, Mary Ann, definitely, and I'd take Bailey over Jennifer in a heartbeat.
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