you have to think of this from management's perspective. If the MEC votes it down then the company does not have a window into how much their proposal has to be modified in order to get a majority vote from pilots. From our side, if we vote it down 80% to 20 then the company knows their proposal is nowwhere close to passing but if we vote no 51% to 49% the company know they only need to sweeten it enough to get another 1.1% to vote yes. that less than 15 pilots who need to change their vote. It like we are showing our hand. We called the company's bluff and raised, now it up to them to fold or reraise. If we go with a pilot vote they have a pretty good idea whats in our hand and can but accordingly. I prefer them to be in the dark! I dont care what they offer, Im voting NO We already signed an 8yr deal with a fleet plan promise so thats it. No airplanes then no talks, when is this pilot group gonna realize that the company has to do something, anything to prove their word is good. They'll park airplanes to let me flow, yeah right!!!