Originally Posted by
Splash
I don't think you're paying attention. Every rep I've spoken with, and everything they've put out to us, has been clear. The PWA supersedes policy.
Here's the guidance from the DTW reps:
Lacking a negotiated agreement stating otherwise, ALPA believes that the PWA language should be enforced and will “vigorously represent” a pilot who is removed from an assignment and is
subsequently penalized by having a PD (Personal Drop = loss of a day’s pay) placed on their
schedule, and being required to have a “talk” with a Chief Pilot,
Here's the guidance from the MSP reps:
Although ALPA has been engaged in negotiations for over 2 months with Flight Ops to achieve mutually acceptable changes to our PWA to reconcile the differences between the current PWA language and the new restrictions under FAR 117, an agreement has not been reached. Flight Ops has instituted a policy that instructs pilots to self-notify for assignments that ensures compliance with FAR 117, but this policy also infringes upon the terms of our PWA. In those situations where pilots are ineligible to accept an assignment for failing to comply with Flight Ops policy, a Personal Drop (PD) is being placed on the pilot’s line, which can have a negative effect on the pilot’s pay. If there is a CPR (Chief Pilot Review) placed on your line, you will need to speak to a chief pilot before any additional flying will be assigned to you. Because the policy unilaterally changes PWA language that is clear and unambiguous, we are committed to protecting pilots who are penalized for complying with our PWA.
If you are given a PD in response to an assignment notification that is in compliance with our PWA, please notify us immediately.
While we are working to reach an agreement, please remember policy cannot supersede the PWA.
Read that last sentence from the MSP reps carefully.
As I understand it, many pilots on reserve are acknowledging assignments earlier than required by the PWA because it benefits them (hotels, commuting timing, etc). I also understand no pilots have lost pay from a failure to comply with the policy.
As you understand it no pilots have lost pay for failing to comply with SD's policy (edict)? So they're getting a "PD" on their schedules but still getting paid? I find that hard to believe.
Two questions:
1. Has a grievance been filed?
2. Can a reserve pilot who has had a "PD" placed on his/her schedule for complying with the PWA, but not SD's policy (i.e. acknowledged the trip inside 10 hours, but within 3 hours) tell us here if they've had pay deducted as a result?
If RES pilots are getting "PD" put on their schedules for complying with the PWA, but not the SD edict and yet are still getting paid then I completely understand the justification for not filing a grievance. But if the pilots are not being paid for that reserve day where they get a "PD" (most likely the case, right?), then why hasn't a grievance been filed?