Originally Posted by
Ragtop Day
[QUOTEhttp://www.airlinepilotforums.com/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1599365=sailingfun;1599 365]Where exactly did you see that on FAR 117? I have read the rule and don't recall that. It does then require 10 hours free of duty prior to reporting for a FDP but nothing in 117 prohibits a mandatory schedule check. The FAR does not care about your days off. You are either working or at rest. The schedule check violates your rest hence the reason you can't now be given a trip prior to 12 noon on the first day of a reserve block.
From the FAA 177 Q and A document.
A4A asked whether a requirement in
the collective bargaining agreement to
check a schedule or calendar, or to
acknowledge a trip assignment, is
considered duty.
Section 117.3 defines duty as ‘‘any
task that a flightcrew member performs
as required by the certificate holder
* * *’’ Thus, if a certificate holder
requires that a flightcrew member check
a schedule or calendar, or acknowledge
a trip assignment, then the flightcrew
member’s compliance with that
requirement would be considered duty.
The collective bargaining agreement has
no impact on this analysis, as this
agreement simply provides the legal
basis for the certificate holder to require
a flightcrew member to perform certain
actions.
To me this means if i am
required to check my schedule, I must be given a duty period. This would be a problem as a) if I check between 1500-2359 (off day), it would trigger a duty period...per the PWA I do not think I can be given a duty period on my day off (without premium pay) and b) if i check between 0000-0200 (on-call), I must be given 10 hours of rest, assuming I wait until 0159 to check it triggers an earliest start time of 1200.[/QUOTE]
I think that per the PWA, we are still required to perform the check between 1500 and 0200 base time, and as the above interpretation states, we are required by our agreement to perform that action. But we never have been specifically compensated for that. For purposes of rest, it is considered duty to perform that check, and thusly I agree that the earliest they could schedule another duty period, ie: short call, would be 1200 base time if they are to abide by the 0200 limit. Acknowledging earlier would be voluntary, I suppose.