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Old 03-14-2014 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Flying Ninja
My understanding is that pay and benefits are negotiated by the pilot union. I also understand that the top pilots will not give the new pilots a pay hike to the tune of double or triple current rates.

Thus, how do you propose management to improve this career?

Seems to me the PILOTS are the one killing their own young and blaming it on management. I could be wrong. But I have yet to hear talks from senior pilots giving up money for the new people (which I KNOW will NEVER happen).
What?

THE UNION is US, and we negotiate with mgt to get as much as we can. I guarantee that your Negotiating Committee has never told mgt "thanks for the offer, but that's too much." Should your company approach your union and say that they'd like to raise the pay for FOs, I really think your union would sign that LOA pretty fast.

If on the other hand your mgt were to approach your union and say we think our Capts are paid too much, and our FOs are paid too little, so we want our Capts and our FOs to all make ~$55/ hr, your union had better not sign that. That is GLA Capt. pay rates and they can't keep pilots either.

Regional FOs aren't overly compensated, but regional Capts aren't either. Taking from one to give to the other doesn't solve the problem.
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