Originally Posted by
Paid2fly
It sounds like you're determined to vote yes to concessions no matter how good the argument is against doing so?
There is no argument against it other than emotions and "what if" scenarios that will screw everyone regardless of contract. The only legitimate argument I've seen are guys who won't vote concessions out of principle, I can respect that.
Personally it's not a concessionary deal. I'm not losing anything I care about (pay, industry average adjustments) and I'm gaining something I do want (better flow). Everyone has different priorities so one broad reasoning is not going to work. I'm not telling anyone else what they should do, the thread wants to know how we voted, I voted yes and I gave my reasoning.
Really is not a concessionary deal? REALLY DUDE????!!!!???!!!???!!!???!!!???
How come?
Losing IAI, If you got hired in 2011 you don't know what it is! Other regionals will increase pay scales, and with the IAI we follow them. We will get pay raises every year + your normal payraise!!!!
Btw in Bk they divided the IAI into CA and FO. So if some company get a better FO pay (IE: RAH) they will match basically our pay to them. We can see Commute Air getting raises, others will follow.
More health insurance. You will get a your yearly pay raise and you will expend more money in the insurance.
For what? And "enhanced flow" that is Garbage!!! For pay caps? For reducing our perdiem from 1.85 to 1.80??? Really? Food goes up, our food money goes down!!! We should be at $2.05 this year!!! That's almost $50 per day! You could eat steak almost every night, not fast food ****!
I really hope something happens and we all get stuck in this piece of **** contract!!! Let's see how you will whine being an FO not able to flow and not able to switch careers.
Open your eyes buddy, not everything that shines is gold. This is a turd, something that is attempting to our QOL. Have you seen the lines lately? Wait for the summer!!! They will be 10 times worst.
They can keep the airplanes, we already gave concessions last year! 43 millions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Somebody that haven't been thru IAI, Per Diem increases never in their career don't know what we are really letting go in this 10yr deal!
So, anyone that's being hired after summer 2011, shouldn't drink the cool aid and ask senior people how was living with double yearly pay raises, more per diem a year.
$2.05 per diem (increasing 0.05 every year) vs $1.80 = $60 less a month (in a 300hr TAFB line) = $720 less this year in TAX FREE money, this year only!
Think about it, is not about the fast upgrade, the flow. Is about our QOL, is about leaving our leverage in the table for e-175. Is about not being able to negotiate for 10 years!!!!
Again, just think about it.