Originally Posted by NuGuy

Heyas Timbo,

When people call out the NWA system, they typically forget that NWA had exactly what you stated.

One half of the premium pay system was 1.5 over 80. Some people got into premium pay right out of the box with the bid line.

The good deal here is that everything counted. Pick up any flying, any time during the month, and you got the premium. No waiting by the phone and no to trying to do a last minute commute

But there were also "premium trips", which were essentially the same as a GS except you could tell which trips were "premium" in open time. If you were awarded one, you got the 1.5 even if your time was below 80.

You really got into the money if you got a premium trip and were over 80. That paid %2.25.

But here's the thing: Like Shiz said, you absolutely do not want a system like this off the leash, which by just adopting the 1.5 x 80 is what you would have.

What people forget is that NWA had a fairly rigid cap system. Rather than an ALV, you had a "max scheduled" that was set like the ALV (it was roughly equivalent to ALV +7:30). You couldn't be scheduled over that amount. You could do a "high time" (HIT) request, which permitted max schedule +5:00, but then your requests were worked after everyone else who wasn't HIT.

There was also a max actual time, which was 2:30 over the max scheduled. If you projected to go over the max actual, you had to drop a trip to take you below it.

There was also negative bank flyback, up to 15:00, but you had to have a negative bank to do that.

You could take training events for pay, no credit.

So if you had a Max scheduled of 80, and 15:00 of NBFB, 5 hours of HIT, plus had 2:30 hours of overfly, the most you could do was 102:30. Throw in a schoosh more if you had CQ that month that you took for pay, no credit. And that was it, and that's only if you had 15 hours of negative bank. If you had a zero bank, then the actual max you could do was 87:30, plus any CQ.

If you implemented the 1.5x for 80 with the same kind of cap system, the people working the system would scream bloody murder.

To make the system worthwhile to change, in my personal opinion, it would have to be:

1.5 over ALV, and all time counts
Premium trips (AKA GS) remain at 2x
Multipliers still stack
Implement at more rigid cap system, perhaps with a max scheduled of +15:00 over ALV, PERIOD. I'm not sure if a forced drop due to over max actual is worthwhile, but I'd check into it.
Anything over ALV +7.:30 (or pick a number) goes into a separate bucket, permitting people below ALV +7:30 to bid for open time first.

Nu