Originally Posted by
TonyWilliams
Originally Posted by
TonyC
What is your policy regarding training failures?
What rights do the employees have under the contract of which you spoke?
I'm not the person to be able to address an employee's legal rights here. I would think of it much like SkyWest Airlines with their "Right to Work" state of Utah, which really means you can be sacked at any time for whatever failing you may have. The U.A.E. has no legal labor unions, but I don't know about Afghanistan.
A training failure would not be retained. We are not in a position to baby sit pilots, which is why they must be experienced in this aircraft.
The exception is Afghan nationals, or those who speak the local language, who will be trained under a somewhat costly program (but common in this part of the world) of a training captain (TRI) plus a safety captain in the jump seat during IOE. All the Afghan speakers we currently have completed a full JAA / EASA approved initial course in Europe, but have zero time in a CRJ.
It's interesting that you chose SkyWest as an example. Of course, your mention of "Right to Work" state is a red herring, as you are well aware that ALPA represents pilots under the RLA in several "Right to Work" states such as FedEx in Tennessee. Even if you chose not to be a member of the union, you would be protected by all the provisions of a Collective Bargaining Agreement negotiated by your Collective Bargaining Agent. Having a choice to not join the union is irrelevant.
It's also interesting to learn that a U.S. pilot who fails to upgrade at your 3rd-world airline should expect the same treatment you received from SkyWest when you failed to upgrade -- no representation, no recourse, just "See ya!" Never mind the great efforts that were made or resources expended to commit to the airline -- your airline doesn't have any commitment to support the pilot in return.
What happened to you at SkyWest was on one level perfect karma (since you fought against the union vote so vociferously), but on another level it was really too bad. ALPA has been known to negotiate provisions in training protocols focused on training to proficiency in place of the "X strikes and you're out" policy that you experienced. Under these more enlightened kinds of rules, your job could have been saved; you could be in a much better place today.
It's even more interesting to learn there's a different class of employees at your 3rd world airline who should expect more understanding treatment based on their language skills. Perhaps U.S. applicants should invest in Rosetta stone.
Given this sort of discrimintation, I can almost understand why you've gotten your knickers into such a twist by people having the audacity to ask about the compensation package they might expect.
Was this post foreshadowing?
Originally Posted by
TonyWilliams
Originally Posted by
shfo
I thought you worked for Skywest. What happened?
I didn't check out on the EMB-120. In accordance with SkW's "up-n-out " policy, I was fired. Not offered even a job as a janitor or baggage handler. In addition, it was specified that being fired means a life-time ban.
None of the messing "family values" stuff like, "gee, are you gunna makes ends meet?" Really.
Allah Akbar
Originally Posted by
TonyWilliams
The plan has been to replace these aircraft with other more capable aircraft.
Good luck with the upgrade.
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