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Old 03-30-2014 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DirectTo
Okay - I'll quote you again, with bolding.



Clearly it's not your landing, it's the other guy/gal's. Which means it's their controls. And you are "getting on a control here or there".

I understand what you're trying to do or think you're doing. Salvaging the landing. I'm sure that's what the SWA Capt thought she was doing too...just a little push to keep the nose down. If you aren't communicating with one another, especially if you're hands aren't easily visible (like being in the left seat and just lightly pushing on the column with your left hand), it may just feel like the airplane to the person flying, who may increase force to compensate. It goes back and forth until someone realizes and let's go, and now you have a sharp force on the controls at low altitude. Bad day no matter.

I've flown 121, 135, and 91; two-crew and single. I've never seen a training program teach to "get on the controls here or there" as the non-flying pilot to keep things in check. That's a bad, bad idea. As I said before, if you aren't comfortable, take the controls assertively and correctly. Don't play a push-pull game with the other pilot until someone gives.
I tend to agree with DirectTo's take on this. Simultaneous flight control inputs by both pilots should be restricted to initial flight training and abnormal operations. Besides the points already raised, some systems will interpret opposing inputs as jammed flight controls and split the two sides - though the forces usually have to be quite high to do that if the system is rigged correctly.
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