Originally Posted by
ASI211
Only the FAA can request a reexamination (709) of an airman usually as a result of an accident or incident where his competency was in question. If someone is having difficulty during training perhaps the organization needs to look within itself first.
Originally Posted by
logan3db
APDs, DPEs, etc. act as the FAA in the 121 flight training world. It's not out of the realm to have them issue a 709 ride. In the case of PDT, I'd have to believe it isn't justified. My guess is it's way over the top for what would essentially be a non event. I don't know for sure because I'm not there and I'm not I. The know. Just my assumptions after having been through training with them, and my treatment in sims.
PDT training is not for the faint of heart or those with easily hurt feelings.
Originally Posted by
ASI211
Designees cannot "issue" 709 rides. It has to come from the administrator (FAA) in any world including 121.
Originally Posted by
742Dash
Only as outlined in their letters, and imposing a 709 ride is light years beyond anything that is in any DE letter.
It sounds like somebody at PDT is like the TSA underwear checker who thinks that they are now part of the FBI.
Only the FAA can "assign" a 709 ride. Presumably PDT training folks are talking out their arses. The big issue is that they are even threatening this, totally out of line in 121 training.
However...depending on the personalities involved with the POI it's not totally inconceivable that a 121 instructor/DPE could whisper in a fed's ear. I suppose in exceedingly rare cases it might even be the right thing to do. But not as a training harassment tool.
In the current climate, I'd suggest not taking a job there, plenty of other regionals will hire at the drop of a hat. Get the word out.