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Old 04-07-2014 | 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by MrMustache
DH at the end does not count towards FDP, if your DH brings you past your FDP limit it changes your rest. So take your ACTUAL FDP completed plus DH block and whatever goes over your FDP Limit needs to be tacked onto your rest.

Say your FDP limit was 12 and your Actual FDP time plus your DH block at the end extends to 12:30 then an additional 30 minutes needs to be tacked onto your rest. I have yet to deal with it but thats how our reps have explained it.
Originally Posted by todd1200
I'd be interested to see a written interpretation that says that. I read it to mean that if a DH takes you over the max FDP, your rest has to be as long as the DH, but not shorter than min rest. So it would never really come into play for us at regionals.

FAR 117.25:
(g) If a flightcrew member engaged in deadhead transportation exceeds the applicable flight duty period in Table B of this part, the flightcrew member must be given a rest period equal to the length of the deadhead transportation but not less than the required rest in paragraph (e) [10hrs w/ 8hr sleep opportunity] of this section before beginning a flight duty period.
Mustache is correct. Once 121 flying ends, FDP is over. The DH rest rule exists for long-haul pilots who frequently have long dead-heads built into their schedule. This generally doesn't apply to a regional or domestic pilots, because it would be very hard to build a domestic deadhead that took longer than ten hours.

Remember the FAA NEVER, EVER UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES cares about your beauty rest after you're done flying 121. If the 121 flying is done there is no obligation for you to get any rest at all. Once you're done flying you only need legal rest before you go fly pax again. You can finish a 12-hour FDP and then be required to stay at the airport all night and mop the floors, you just need whatever legal rest applies before you go fly pax again.
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