This whole bargaining session, including LOAs and interim agreements, have been diagramed in the labor attorneys' offices years ago. There is no incentive for them to move meaningfully forward until we hit predetermined gates, frustration, loss of goodwill, work action, etc. All of these have a cost associated with them. Until we cross their risk reward line, nothing will happen. It's time to make it happen. We cost in excess of 1 billion a year, the company spends allot of money on some very smart labor attorneys to control cost. There is no emotion on their part, just risk reward. The reward is money in their pocket. It's time to put money in our pocket.