For those of us who are going to apply no matter what you guys put on here, has anyone heard any possible dates, numbers, applying thru ups careers website or switching to an outside site like it seems almost every major has? As an educated guess, you'd think they would like to start getting new guys in class no latter than September in order to have a few fresh reserves to beat up on starting late November. I have my few connections but 3 out of 4 didn't even know they had recalled the last few guys. Thanks for any positive info anybody has!

As for the rest of you, you should hope I don't fly with you as an FO one day because one thing I don't put up with no matter how senior someone is, is stupidity and complaining. Didn't put up with it as a new hire regional FO, and took some heat for it, but low and behold chief pilot always had my back. If you don't like it go somewhere else and let me move up a number. I always support drinking, smoking and unhealthy behavior in anyone senior to me!!!!!!!