Originally Posted by saturn

How short sighted. Look at forums in 2007, and you see similar thought processes. If anyone wonders why the industry takes such a step backwards, thank all of your comrades with get-there-itis whatever it takes mind-sets. Taking a gamble that something might get a few ahead but will inevitably lead to a lower standard for all. Why do you think management offers sign on bonuses but wont raise first year pay? Because a bonus can disappear, a pay raise cant easily be changed without a pilot group going nuts. Taking growth or interviews or flows for concessions, is similarly short sighted.