Originally Posted by
sailingfun
They can't be used as a backup on the same flight even if you buy a refundable fare.
You and your eligible pass riders may not standby for a flight for which you or your pass riders hold or have ever held a confirmed reservation or ticket.
No, but it could be a backup on the last flight that would get us there for the tour start. We are planning to leave 3 days early. How can you tell if it is refundable? Here is what TravelNet says:
CHANGES/REFUNDS
FARE RULES TEXT BETWEEN THE UNITED STATES AND UNITED KINGDOM DOUBLE OPEN JAWS NOT PERMITTED. APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23. END-ON-END END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ/OK/DL/AS/QX/Z K/ 3M/VS OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS -TO FORM SINGLE OPEN JAWS -TO FORM. ROUND TRIPS -TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS EXCEPT FOR AROUND-THE-WORLD FARES. PROVIDED - COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER KL/AF/AZ / OK/ DL/AS/QX/ZK/3M/VS IN ANY RULE IN TARIFF IPRA - USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 VIA ATLANTIC IPRAI - BETWEEN THE USA/CANADA-AREA 2/3 VIA ATLANTIC IPRSAA2 - BETWEEN THE WESTERN HEMISPHERE-AREA 2 VI A ATLANTIC. COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER DL/AF/KL / AZ/ VS IN RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF ATDLR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2 OR RULE 2222/4444 IN TARIFF TAPVR - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2. NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME POI NT- BWI-WAS FLL-MIA OAK-SFO OAK-SJC SFO-SJC LAX -ONT LAX-BUR LAX-LGB LAX-SNA ONT-BUR ONT-LGB ONT -SNA BUR-LGB BUR-SNA LGB-SNA NYC-EWR
Now, what does that all mean?
The associated Fly for EVEN Less fare has the wording "This ticket is non-refundable" under it, which implies that the Fly Confirmed for Less fare would be refundable. You certainly can't read the above and verify that.