For the effort required to throw out ALPA and start a regionals' union or even certify IBT, the regional guys could just as easily elect/reelect like-minded reps, band together with reform-minded mainline guys, and clean house at the next BOD. Moak's term expires this year, you know. ALPA has the organizational structure and resources in place, why start from scratch when you can just take it over? Mind you, regional guys aren't a majority. But regional guys + mainliners who see the need for change at National just might be.