Originally Posted by GunshipGuy

An impressive negotiator would not play the game of following their rules and would change the metrics used. Live with the other side's paradigm that works against you? How about something else? Fellow employee's rates today vs post-pay cuts; CEO pay/options; pilot pay as a percentage of profits? Not coming out against you, Iamapilot, but the mindset of defeatism seems ingrained before we've even started. I understand why, but I wish we could expect more from our expert negotiators.