Originally Posted by
Denny Crane
I've read all the posts. What you want to do is separate "legal" from "safe." If we could do that, then I think you would be correct but that's not the reality of the situation. I don't think you can separate them, hence my answer to your question. Since CDO's were not excluded by 117, I have to conclude the panel that developed 117 evaluated CDO's and thought they would be safe enough to perform. (I'm not saying I agree with it but that's my interpretation.)
Denny
Okay, I understand now. The FAA always gets it right... and legal is always safe. So in the old FAR's, the minimum reduced layover was 8 hours and that was safe...... until it wasn't. And now, in FAR 117, they went out of their way to make 8 hours of sleep to be the standard for the amount of sleep a pilot should get before carrying passengers. But since they put some split duty language into the FAR to allow for CDO's, it's okay for THOSE pilots to have less than 8 hours of sleep (cause you and I both know pilots aren't sleeping 8 hours during the day before beginning a CDO).
Yeah, I agree with you. It's legal.
But it's not safe. Now way no how.
Maybe they had one "panel" that decided 8 hours of sleep was important and another panel that decided it wasn't?
