It's going to take a while to properly digest this, once we have the facts (and we MUST get the facts before a vote takes place), but in any analysis we need to look at the most horrid "frankenstein" trip. Also: don't look at augmented and CDO as separate issue. Don't assume CDO's go back to where they started. Don't assume they represent the start and end of a rotation. And don't think about rotations in the traditional way.

Imagine a NYC rotation where leg 1 is augmenting 2 LA guys going home on a turn, short layover, CDO, end up on the East Coast, then fly with 1 pilot West, and finish a "turn" home augmented with a LA guy on the first leg of his rotation (last leg of yours).

Did I just accidentally think of a way to negate Alan and Sailing's math, or am I way off? Do you have to be augmented on the entire time if going > 9 hours, or just the time above 9 hours?