Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
Should we perhaps petition the FAA to put into place a requirement that each pilot spend the ten hours before each duty period in a monitored, isolated facility to prevent him from acting irresponsibly prior to report? maybe we should ask the Company to save us from ourselves by having the station manager measure our fatigue and/or alertness level prior to each report.
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Here's the serious question you posed to 88Driver
Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
I was serious in my question to 88Driver.
Really? That was a serious question? Petitioning the FAA to have us placed in a monitored, isolated facility prior to report? Sounds pretty sarcastic to me.
Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
He was accusing me and my fellow pilots of failing to act responsibly and/or comply with the FARs regarding fitness for duty
Originally Posted by
Alan Shore
unless we are somehow prevented from doing so by the FAR.
The point of the question was to ask him just how far he thought that should go. As out there as it sounds, there have been those in the past who have advocated exactly such a scenario regarding the policing of every pilot's actions prior to report. My view is that we are all big boys who do not need the the gubmint to lead us by the wrist to do the right thing.
His mileage has clearly varied.
You're being a bit overdramatic waiving your "how dare you question my integrity" flag about all of this. You may be the one guy out there that's never flown sick or tired. Good for you. I think most of us have done both at one time or another, sometimes at the same time.
You are completely mischaracterizing 88Driver's statements. His point, if I understand it correctly, is that when you have rules in place (like CDOs) that are inherently unsafe, it places pilots in a very bad place. Probably 99%+ of us are Type-A "get er done" mentality. It's in our very nature to finish. Couple that with pressure from management, or even pressure we may put on ourselves, often leads to making poor decisions about whether or not to continue.
APCLurker put it well:
Originally Posted by
APCLurker
That's not what happens in real life and most everybody here and throughout the industry knows it. We had a poster here not long ago that posted about being "exhausted" after his deadhead leg (I believe due to a middle seat). He then turned right around and worked the 4 hour leg back to base. Not to mention the commuters that leave home at o-dark-thirty to commute to base then work until 0-dark-thirty that night. Or the people that state they "just couldn't get to sleep last night" and still work the flight. Or the guy that fell asleep on me during a frikken shuttle leg from Bos to Lga.
Or....[insert any number of items we all have experienced here].. Your statement seems a bit too alltruistic.