Originally Posted by DelDah Capt

Would you put your family on tonight's 7p JFK to Moscow flight? Because the pilots on that flight are going to fly into the night and and try to land with the rising sun, but unlike the CDO crew, they won't get a 6 hour break at a hotel with a chance to shower. Further, since I'm NYC based, I know darn well that the majority of the NY pilots are commuters and they probably flew in that day.

What I've heard from you and others is that "well, we already do international flights and red eyes and there's a marketing need for them....but we shouldn't add more 'unsafe flying' "

Well, I'm sorry, if you believe flying during the WOCL is unsafe in Split duty Ops, then it's unsafe during International/Red eyes. I'm asking you to be consistent...if disturbed sleep flying is unsafe as a CDO, then it's unsafe as a Transpac as well. It doesn't suddenly become safe because we've always done it. Again, be consistent....if you really believe flying in the wee hours of the morning to be unsafe, then it's unsafe for all those types of operations and I will assume that if Delta announces some new Transatlantic destinations next week, you will demand that they be flown by our JV partners because they are unsafe