Talon,

I don't disagree with your message...however, my response is a bit more nuanced than that. And it is a change of heart over the last two or so years that I have been on this thread...ready?!!

I have provided (along with many others) the best information that I could to help the guys who have been interested in seeking a position at Atlas. I have always believed and continue to do so that Atlas is a great company, and a job at Atlas is a great adventure (simply because of the type of flying we do)...

However, conditions (read, treatment by management of the pilots, and the disregard for the CBA) have gotten worse over the last year or more. So much that I cannot recommend this job to anyone anymore in good conscience...maybe in a year or two when we negotiate a better CBA, and force their hand, I may change my tune, but as it stands now, I wish to publicly tell pilots to stay away...especially young ones.

Harsh words? ... May be ... but, I have seen the environment at Atlas become toxic and the daily struggle to keep to the CBA, and the daily struggle to get the simplest things done, is such a huge ordeal here.

Once again, I cannot in good conscience, recommend Atlas as a place to hang your hat, even for a short stint. And especially for a young person, and especially when the legacy, LCCs, etc (and FDX and UPS soon, we hope!!) are hiring right now.

All the best to those seeking employment here, but my recommendation at this point is to approach this with extreme caution...know what you are getting into, and do your homework.

Disclaimer...I am likely to get lots of PMs after this. I am not going to answer any questions in private. So, unless you have something nice to say, please say it here in the thread.

Good luck.
744driver