Originally Posted by
SkylineAviation
I'll admit, that's a pretty good deal. I just can't imagine how management negotiators missed that one or how they're current not trying to think of a way to change it.
Of course they've thought of ways to change it, that doesn't mean they can change it. The same way they can't just say "welp I think we're actually going to pay everyone $1 less per hour next month".
I don't know what you are referring to in Eagle's contract that has been violated but I can assume it's the flow. I don't know anything about that but perhaps the language is a little grey.
Originally Posted by
SkylineAviation
So basically what you're saying is that the scheduling section of your contract was/is unaccounted for during negotiations and is still unaccounted for with management. Hence the reason your contract is not concessionary. But if you guys are doing so well with it, can't you foresee management making changes to it for their benefit. I believe AAG management has proven they will change things at their will only for a union to later grieve which takes months and years to resolve (at least at Eagle that's how it works).
So take away that section your contract would otherwise be concessionary and which is why they want to mirror your contract (without the scheduling section) for all other regional's. Would that be correct?
If I'm not mistaken, you guys have incremental increase YOY in insurance costs and pay caps. Which is to say each year you take a hit in pay and when the music stops in hiring, or someone gets stuck at PSA, they begin to lose money every year because of the pay cap. Would that also be correct?
I never said our contract wasn't concessionary. It certainly is. What I'm asking is, why all the PSA bashing when we are still in the top 3rd of regionals compensation wise? We gave a little to get a little. Our union has a longer term strategy where they think they can get not only increased hiring requirements from the new AA but also some give back on the concessions.
The insurance sharing is definitely another concession. The full amount will take effect in 2017 and will cost me 8 dollars more a month than what I'm paying now. I'm single. The most expensive family plan is looking at about 40 more per month. So it's there but its difficult to argue that its significant.
It was not right for AA to come to us for concessions given their financial standing but I can understand why people at PSA voted yes. It benefits a large majority of the pilot group, and those that it negatively effects will, in theory, be at AA within a couple years whereas they had pretty much no chance before.