Originally Posted by
tsquare
You have got to be kidding me. In one breath you go from saying that it isn't the first offer to it is the first offer. Good grief Carl.
Stop hyperventilating tsquare. I've said it twice now and you've missed it twice. I'm not saying negotiators agree to the first offer. I'm talking about whether the
line pilots accept the first offer. Guys like Starcheck just want you to rubber stamp whatever the union puts in front of you because he's too scared to ever say no. Hawaiian pilots showed how it was done in bankruptcy. Much to my delight, we just showed how it's done.
Originally Posted by
tsquare
But let me try to understand. The negotiators go into negotiations, and turn down the first offer... I think that's safe to say, but from your perspective I am not so sure... But anyway, they haggle and finally come up with a deal. They then present it to the pilot group as a whole.. but because it is the first time WE have seen the deal, it is back to square one, ipso facto the first offer, and therefore worthy of nothing but a rubber stamp sending it back... is that about right? Why do we e en bother with negotiators? FOr that matter, we really don't need the memory rat. Let's call it the Spackler device that automatically rejects any TA until it is sent back to the table.
Hopefully the above answers this.
Originally Posted by
tsquare
Standing by to receive input as to how "scared" I am or how "risk intolerant" I am or some other such foolishness...
Not in your case tsquare. I was thrilled to read your comments when I was in lurk mode. You refused to compromise on safety. You showed the best quality of an LCA. I was and am proud of you for it.
Carl