Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Stop hyperventilating tsquare. I've said it twice now and you've missed it twice. I'm not saying negotiators agree to the first offer. I'm talking about whether the line pilots accept the first offer. Guys like Starcheck just want you to rubber stamp whatever the union puts in front of you because he's too scared to ever say no. Hawaiian pilots showed how it was done in bankruptcy. Much to my delight, we just showed how it's done.
Again, it appears that you believe that the line pilots have some sort of duty to reject the first TA. What is interesting to me is that you believe by doing so, there will automatically be a better deal that comes toward us. You like to use Hawaiian as an example. Again, I will tell you to look at AirTran. I don't necessarily believe that is true that the line pilots have to reject the first TA in order to show management something.
In this case, and in my opinion, the concept of SDPs with the associated lack of any kind of proper rest, coupled with a very real potential for IROPS to even worsen an already idiotic situation vis a vis reduced rest, I was a one issue voter for the only time in my career. If they ever come up again sans extreme protections, I will vote based on that single issue. 117 was supposed to increase safety and rest based on "science" Where is that science when it comes to these SDPs? Is it OK to overlook safety if the paycheck is big enough? I don't think so.
Originally Posted by
Carl Spackler
Not in your case tsquare. I was thrilled to read your comments when I was in lurk mode. You refused to compromise on safety. You showed the best quality of an LCA. I was and am proud of you for it.
Carl
I appreciate that more than you know.