Originally Posted by
Purple Drank
Yes, I was referring to the initial TA that contained the SDPs.
I'm mostly fine with the TA as it passed, with the exception that it should have been given a memory rat.
I don't think I would have much to gripe about the original TA if it didn't include SDPs. But that's neither here nor there. The SDP aspect has been beaten to death, and I agree with pretty much everything your wrote in opposition to them.
My point was simply that, in the future, it won't will work for DALPA (or even RA) to say "there isn't a better deal available".
I'm confused about this "blood lust" you speak of. No need for you to be a drama queen. I'm desperately hoping C15 is everything it should be in this insanely positive negotiating climate.
Why was memrat necessary? Would it change anything? This was a good deal all the way around except for the rotten apple that was culled. It would have been a total waste of time, money and resource. If you want the pilots to be polled, that would be OK I guess, although I don't think it is worthwhile to do so....
And again, it is interesting to me that you demonstrate such cynicism toward those representing you in the negotiating arena. They have access to more the data and information than you and I will ever have and are negotiating our contract based on that information. Yet somehow, you believe that you can read a synopsis (which is after all what the TA is) and draw an unfettered, absolute conclusion that the negotiators left money on the table. Sometimes there is the benefit of hindsight or a time factor that takes place after the negotiations have concluded that might strengthen an argument one way or the other, but what I am trying to understand from the "just say no to anything" crowd is the lack of ANY trust in the process prior to your receiving a TA. You and Carl and the others in that crowd impress me as having zero confidence in the capabilities of those negotiators to extract the best deal they can. Is it that you believe they don't have to live under the contract? It makes no sense to me other than blood lust. You just want to fight... nothing else makes any sense.
And as to being a drama queen, you need to look in a mirror, son.