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WAVIT Inbound
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Originally Posted by FlyHigh423
What does this mean for everyone at Skywest? Because they are non-union correct? Or am I not understanding this right?
It means absolutely nothing. This is just posturing. ALPA does not control hiring. Plenty of Skywest people getting hired and plenty will continue to.
Take it to the bank.
This is correct. ALPA does not control hiring. The only way ALPA can do this is to negotiate it into their contract. DALPA has started this ball rolling already. The only difference is that it's not 100%. This resolution, if true, would task each MEC to make it 100%.
Originally Posted by
PerpetualFlyer
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Originally Posted by AnchorDown
Yes there are plenty getting hired NOW. Line pilots are in on the interviews, while not in control of hiring, they have an enormous influence. My guess is, as this gets implemented, you will have less and less SkyWest pilots in the future getting interviews at places like Delta and United or ALPA carriers.
AnchorDown
So you would rather hire gojetsssss and PSA pilots before anyone non-union? Those two groups have done more to harm you than SkyWest ever has.
It's very insidious. But every pilot union is trying to make the profession better for it's members, and non-union pilots. Skywest pilots are not pulling their weight on this.
Imagine how much stronger the union would be with them on board. Maybe there are people of great intelligence within their ranks that could've helped with those to situations or future instances.
For sake of argument, let's say that aren't doing ANY harm. The fact is that they are not helping though. They are just sitting on the sidelines while others are fighting battles that affect them.
Originally Posted by
WAVIT Inbound
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Originally Posted by AnchorDown
New wrinkle...... ASA just sponsored a resolution at ALPA National that Mainline Carriers (ALPA Carriers), hire ONLY from Union Carriers... Passed by 100%.. Great work gentlemen!
AnchorDown
Of course it passed by 100%. Why wouldn't it? ALPA folks voting on something that excludes people not ALPA. This is one of the dumbest things I have heard of in quite a while. Waste of everyone's time.
I believe that it's not exclusive to ALPA. It's "union" carriers. That's how the op made it sound like at least. And I don't see anything wrong with that. I suspect that only non-union pilots would have a problem with that.
Originally Posted by
NVUS
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Originally Posted by PerpetualFlyer
Solid logic there brah, hire the ones that allow a B scale at a regional, and need I even mention what gojetsssss pilots have done to this industry? Good thing you're not doing the hiring.
Oh, and here's what you said regarding PSA:
So you mock them in one thread but yet will hire them in another? Typical ALPA pandering right there. And btw, I'm pro-union. If a drive happens while I'm here I would happily vote yes.
Southwest's new VP of Flight Ops is a former SkyWest pilot and SGU native, so let them eat cake.
SWA isn't an ALPA carrier so this resolution wouldn't apply to them, obviously.
But at some point, the case is going to be made to turn ALPA into something very similar to CAPA. Then you will have saw and all the independents making these types of policies.
Originally Posted by
PerpetualFlyer
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Originally Posted by John Carr
And just for some perspective, who was it that agreed to fly 70 seat equipment for 50 seat rates when it was agreed that 700's would be coming to UAX? It killed the position of pilot groups at other companies that were already flying the type. As well as the ones that were trying to negotiate a rate for 700's should they show up. The SKW 50 seat rate was abysmal to what COMAIR was flying the 700 for at that time And never mind what Horizon for them for.
Again, that's just for perspective. So be careful, and know the history of a "b-scale" as it relates to operating regional equipment.
I wasn't here when that happened and I would've voted against it.
Yes, just like the PSA pilots that voted no. But somehow you guys feel you are better than them.