Originally Posted by
NuGuy
Soooo, a 4 year old, failed resolution made it onto the negotiating committee's plate exactly how? Doesn't stuff that goes to the committee require a majority of the MEC to sign off on it before it actually gets negotiated?
Besides, given the track record of success that C20 has in getting things their way on the MEC, the idea of them actually succeeding getting this to the table if even a couple of other councils were against it is laughable.
I spoke to my reps on this...did anyone else bother to ask them? They had no idea there even was a resolution for this in the past (why would they? It went and failed three years before they were in even in office). It wasn't even at the bottom yof their list of issues, so to somehow tie them to the magical appearance of SDPs, obliquely or otherwise, is highly questionable. The FO rep said he flew "illegals" at NWA (as did I), and he told me he was HIGHLY allergic to them, and would never vote in favor of something he wouldn't do himself.
If you guys want to know where they came from, I would suggest an email or phone call to the Negotiating Committee. Their addresses are on the committee page of the ALPA MEC site (under the "committee" pull down menu). You can also reach them by phone by calling the MEC office. It's a "standing committee", which means they're there M-F (except holidays).
Certainly SDPs didn't simply manifest out of thin air, so they should know all about it. The "new" committee isn't the same as the people who negotiated this, but they should have the info.
Nu
Those are all good points Nu, but we've got a lot of unanswered questions. And no, I haven't talked to either of my reps since this got voted in. Karnak posted a Council 1 memo stating that CDO's were indeed the majority will of the reps and that specific direction was given to the NC to obtain. Did both C20 reps agree to that, or did they vote against that being inserted as direction to the NC? I really want to know what they did and what they thought.
I am very glad they voted for MEMRAT however.
What's your take on points of learning here? Did we learn anything? Or are we as totally dysfunctional as we were when Roberts was recalled?
Carl