some data points to support previous posts, for BB and 80 consideration:
I normally find what you both post to be considered and intelligent.

80-- from the very beginning of this, I was saying to myself, "WTH, how did 80 get so much inside info on this? Is he a rep now or what? And why is he so overly enthusiastic on this TA, it must be a totally awesome deal if 80 is giving it his stamp!"
... it was a turd as presented, and I was left reallllly questioning what was going on with 80, in the past he never tried to sell stuff like this. I was dissappointed. Carl, thanks for your thoughts--much of what you said I was thinking. Purple... it seems that if you type more than a sentence or two, you get smarter and smarter. If I needed a lawyer, and you were a lawyer, I'd hire you. LeineLodge, I keep picturing Data from StarTrek when I read your stuff--calm, rational, unemotional. Thanks all for your time on thoughts on this, there's probably hundreds like me that get our info from this thread and your considered thoughts.

BB-- your stuff is usually awesome. I read every post on this thread, and I have always thought, "If BB were willing to be a union guy, I'd trust him and want him as a rep". The last two days, your posts were probably factually OK... but I'm left feeling you're rabble rousing, when usually I consider you a paragon of unity. Just an input for your consideration as an average reader, not desiring to generate any sort of argument or discussion, nor am I qualified to discuss your posts last few days really. What you write is probably more influential that you realize, just want to give you an input that warring with Carl isn't a good path for you, you're 'sposed to be the "calming effect" around here.

And *** since I'm writing-- Gloopy, you've been 100% spot on from my perspective this week. EdGrimley, where have you been, your thoughts are toight like a tiger!