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Old 05-27-2014 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Shore
As an aside, there will likely always be a price to be paid for going back to amend an agreement once the initial handshake is complete. That is the downside of turning down a TA. That is not to say that we should simply rubberstamp everything our reps do, but we need to recognize that it's not as simple as it might otherwise sound.
That's why it's so critical for the negotiators to follow the direction of the reps to the letter. If they can't get it from management, then you walk away. You don't just sign off on something you think is close. Yet "Scrappy's" team has now done that twice.

Originally Posted by Alan Shore
The best course of action, IMO, is to have a strong system of communication between us and our reps, and between them and the Negotiating Committee. That way, we stand the best chance of reaching a first TA that is acceptable, and a better understanding of why that TA falls short of our goals, if that is the case. We can then make the most educated decision possible when we cast our votes.
It's way simpler than that Alan. The reps communicate to the NC, and the NC listens! Period. If you don't like that, then resign of the NC, because that's the rules. Scrappy has flouted the rules twice now by bringing TA's that did not meet the direction. The first time, they got away with it because our reps didn't fight it. This time, it failed because the pilots had seen this movie before and wanted their money back.

This "system" we've devolved into can't be defended. Nobody could argue this is optimum. We look weak and foolish right now in management's eyes. We need to change that if possible before C2015 openers. One nice change would be to strictly abide by our own policies.

Carl